“Suddenly, four years later….”

I’ve been doing this website for the same amount of time I was in high school…that’s a thought to make me feel my age.

Anyway, I don’t know what I can say that I haven’t already said three times before, except to repeat, as always, my great appreciation for you, my readers, and all of your e-mails and comments (and logo contributions). Interacting with all of you just adds to my enjoyment of this goofy little website here, and makes me feel as if I’m not just shouting to the wind. That any of you find enough of value in my site to keep coming back means more than I can say, so thank you for that.

Also, thank you for putting up with the addition of advertising on this site over the last year…I’ve tried to keep it non-obtrusive, aside from my remarkably subtle hints to click a link or do an Amazon search, etc. It’s not a lot of money coming in from those sources, but as I’ve said before, every little bit helps. If you’re one of those folks who used those services…it’s very welcome, and I thank you.

And thanks, of course, to my fellow comics webloggers…most of whom I get along with swimmingly, some of whom frustrate me occasionally, and none of whom I’d want to be without. It’s the convergence and/or clashing of opinions and ideas that keeps things interesting, and I wouldn’t want it any other way.

Of course, a special thanks goes out to my good friend and partner in crime pal Dorian. It just wouldn’t be the same without him around.

So for the last couple of anniversaries, I did a brief round-up of some of my favorite posts from the previous year. Well, I kinda overdid it this time, but I hope you don’t mind:

Hanna-Barbera Pie Fight, Swamp Thing slippers, MODOK link-dump, refuting someone’s incorrect assumption about comics ordering, my quote in Previews, How X-Force #25 made Canadians hate us, what Dino the Dinosaur is thinking, MIGHTY GREEN ARROW IMAGE SHOWCASE FOR LAUGH TIME, in which I was right about Dark Tower not being a gateway comic, the creepiness of Superboy Sphinx, BIKINICHROME, Swamp Thing dancers, Happy Ultimate Wolverine Versus Hulk Day, buy more comics, Abby Arcane’s forgotten super powers, one of too many posts in which I explain the whole “Death of Captain America” thing , Mike’s Comic Shop…of EEEEEEEEVIL, Batman Defeated by Joker – Seven Decades of Superheroing Come to End, Skywald’s Heap comic, how not to get Buffy the Vampire Slayer fans to bid on your auction, a Pizzazz subscription card insert, a comic to make you feel old, a page of kid-drawn monsters, the 2007 April Fools post: “Attending Church: The Official Internet Fansite for Kevin Church,” dancing Galactus, on the passing of Johnny Hart, an overanalysis of some nerd trivia, Jack Kirby’s Demon versus Linus, Snoopy, and Broom Hilda, Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes II tells my fortune, Spooky versus Pencilman, the Fist of Purplish-Pink Justice, Little Lulu freaks the mundanes, why Turok is cool, being a fink is fun, Free Comic Book Day aftermath 1 and 2, Spider-Man 3: not completely horrible, the zoo trip, a whole lotta ECs, a look at that comic book rack from an old Peanuts strip, NANCY MUST NOT EAT IT, Fallen Son: Nancy, a complete Spunky the Monkey story, Mike Sterling’s Progressive Cranius, pure putty tragedy, Star Wars‘ 30th Anniversary, at least I liked this animation, the girlfriend brings me comics from Mexico, Archie’s shirt freaks me out, the single most depressing robot story you’ll ever read, Dr. Doom versus Superman, Fantastic Four sequel review, the Archie gazes also, Ibis the Invincible will freakin’ kill you, man, Linus versus the pooping robot (and a follow-up with monster Peanuts), I explain the Pietà, the worst battle cry ever, how DC Comics totally screwed us with their handling of The Flash, a tribute to my customer Bruce, Good Lord we have a lot of old posters, I answer some questions about the ’90s boom ‘n’ bust (follow-ups 1 and 2), putting words in Satan’s mouth, these comics protected by Spawn, battle of the disembodied heads, a review of Mad Magazine’s Up the Academy, I get snarky, the break-in (follow-ups 1 and 2), the random gift of a Man-Thing sketch, the possible negative impact of retailer blogging on sales, the secret origin of Tarzan’s trunks, CONTEMPLATE SLUGGO, more local mini-comic memories, who’s who at the Death of Superman, tiny comic book ads blown up good ‘n’ big, “IN HELL, BABY, IN HELL,”, Jack Kirby’s creepy as hell leprechaun, Darkseid versus the Care Bears, on Joe Quesada’s attempts to convince everyone that the Spider-Man marriage was a bad thing (and a follow-up, plus my initial vague hint to current Spidey shenanigans), some Darkseid fine art, the MONDO-THICKARAMA BACKER 3000, the kickassery of Walt Simonson’s Thor, the only Richie Rich cover analysis you’ll ever need, logic is applied to the bottle city of Kandor for no good reason, a celebration of Don Rosa’s Captain Kentucky, Kirby’s Super Powers, the nightmarish frog thing what gathers bunnies, helping with a search for back issues, DC staffer cameos in the Daily Planet newspaper, Richie Rich versus ‘the Googol,’ the secret life of Sluggo, the Mickey Mouse thesis, Pink Batman, “WHERE’S ME GOLD,” Mike versus Fire, the Superman: Doomsday DVD review, Stan Lee Presents Se7en, the chameleon torture toy for kids, a complete scan of the Golden Age story “The Widow of Death,” things to not post about: is Kirby the Liefeld of the ’70s, why Herbie rules, Fearless Fosdick and the Poisoned Beans, Mr. District Attorney and the Fastphoto system, the constant abuse of Porky Pig…

…and, at long last, my podcast interview.

Again, let me express my gratitude for my readership. I know I’ve said it before, but when I started I never expected more than a few friends (in real life and online) to read my site. That I have as many readers as I do is a never-ending source of surprise to me. And that they all seem to think I have some kind of obsession with Swamp Thing is a surprise as well. I wonder where they got that idea?


Thank you for reading, and I’ll see you tomorrow.

No, I didn’t enter.

I scanned this ad out of Superman #376, which had a cover date of October ’82, so it was actually on the stands around July or August. With a deadline of September 1st, that didn’t leave much time for dilly-dallying about, wondering if one should enter. Just to make sure, I checked through the early issues of Saga of the Swamp Thing, and, yes, the ad doesn’t pop up ’til the October issue.

Had I thought about it, I probably would have entered the contest at the time, though I’ve never been much of a contest-enterer. I mean, sure, there was little chance at getting the grand prize, but I had a shot at getting that free year’s subscription to Swamp Thing, and that $7.20 value is nothing to sneeze at, mister.

So, how short lived was that excitement? Yeah, I know the Swamp Thing film stands as bit of a camp classic now, but at the time…well, okay, Roger Ebert liked it, but as a follow-up to Superman: The Movie, DC’s film about a guy in an ill-fitting rubber suit may have been something of a comedown. Okay, it’s not an awful film, really. Costuming aside, it’s actually not bad…it’s a quirky, cheesy adventure with some knowing humor and occasional moments of genuine emotion. But it still had no chance of being a blockbuster like Superman (which was quirky and campy in its own way).

I don’t have anything to say about this next bit, really, aside from noting the contortions the writer had to go through to get Swampy’s old, now mostly forgotten tagline into the ad:

All joking aside, the grand prize sounds like a pretty sweet deal:

Okay, trip for two, hotel, etc. — that’s all well and good. And I wonder if, the ad blurb says, the contest winner actually met the literal creators of the character, Len Wein and Bernie Wrightson, or if they meant “creators” in the general, copyright-ownership sense of the term; i.e. it’s owned by DC Comics, legally DC Comics is the creator of the character…you know, like that. “Hi, we’re DC Comics, and we create all your favorite superhero adventures right here in these offices!” Or did they mean the then current creative team, Marty Pasko and Tom Yeates? (And Wein, too, since he was editing the series at the time.) I know Mr. Wein is just a click and a comment away from me asking him these questions, but I don’t want to pester the man.

But what I”m really curious about is what Broadway show they went to. It could have been Cats, which opened on Broadway about then. (And now for the smart-alecky crack that’s gonna show me where my readers stand….) If it was Cats, well, that’s more of a penalty than a prize, isn’t it?

I recall seeing no one held up as the winner of this contest. But I do wonder how many people actually entered…a long time ago, I read an interview (don’t remember where) with someone (don’t remember who…take it from me, kids — don’t get old!) regarding a full-page ad they’d run in some DC Comics, and that the number of responses they received was very low.

I imagine a contest certainly gathered more response than just a plain ol’ ad, but I wonder, not if they got enough entries to give away all 201 prizes, but if they received lots of entries well above and beyond the 201 limit, or if they just barely made it.

EDIT: That’s one! Only 200 more to go!

That’s probably the rarest Swamp Thing collectible of them all…if it turns out Rich has that list of winners, I’ll turn green with envy. Because, you know, it’d be funny, since Swamp Thing is green, and…oh, fergit it.

"That thing is — ticking! Gotta try to defuse it before…"


from Swamp Thing #1 (Oct/Nov 1972) by Len Wein & Berni Wrightson

from Swamp Thing #23 (June/July 1976) by Gerry Conway & Nestor Redondo


from Saga of the Swamp Thing #1 (May 1982) by Marty Pasko & Tom Yeates

from Saga of the Swamp Thing #21 (Feb 1984) by Alan Moore, Steve Bissette & John Totleben

from Saga of the Swamp Thing #28 (Sept 1984) by Alan Moore & Shawn McManus


from Swamp Thing Annual #3 (1987) by Rick Veitch & Tom Yeates, et al.

from Swamp Thing #1 (May 2004) by Andy Diggle & Enrique Breccia

For contrast, here are the moments leading up to Alec Holland’s transformation into Swamp Thing from the 1991 cartoon:






"…I didn’t kill her! I’m the Batman!"

A little Batman versus Swampy action from Brave and the Bold #176 (July 1981) by Martin Pasko & Jim Aparo:


CLICK TO HUGE-IFY

1. “Felicia” is Catwoman’s sister, in her (only?) appearance. (Has she popped up at all in recent years?) It’s a little strange that they introduce a sibling for a long-established major villain of one of DC’s headliners, and not in one of the main titles but in a team-up book, and then kill her off.

2. For some reason, the thought of Batman shouting his darn fool head off and beating the tar out of somebody with a club amuses me. It’s like the proto-All Star Batman.

3. I do like how over the course of the story Batman picks up minor clues as to the true nature of Swamp Thing. For example, when they’re about to bury Felicia:


Why he couldn’t be just a swamp creature that once saw a funeral, maybe, I have no idea.

‘Course, suspicions aside, Batman still just sorta waves “good-bye” to Swampy at the end of the tale and doesn’t, you know, offer to help him or investigate the Swamp Thing further or anything:

This is my Saturday post.

I got a late start on my “End of Civilization” post from yesterday, so I was pretty tired while I was working on it and forgot to mention this wonderful, wonderful item:

p. 420 – Cthulhu Gloves:


It sorta looks like random pieces of leftover bits of fabric sewn together, doesn’t it?

Speaking of that post, my gag about the Revoltech Danboard Action Figure was kinda lost…I was trying to imply that the figure looked unfinished, like they didn’t bother sculpting the arms, torso, and legs, and just put a finished head on a clunky, unfinished body. Sorry, guess I wasn’t clear…don’t post when you’re sleepy, kids!

And some of you folks seem really excited about this. So what do I know?

In other news:

  • That Albedo #2 that we had up for auction, which I mentioned the other day? It ended Friday afternoon at $565.00! Holy crow. If only I had another couple dozen in the back room…I’d be set.
  • I added the link to my original post on the subject, but in case you missed it: Dwayne goes through the first couple issues of the Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters mini-series and examines some blatant photocopying. And believe me, there’re more examples than just the ones Dwayne points out.
  • Can we maybe stop using the term “underwear perverts” to refer to superheroes? It was kinda cute the first couple of times, but now it’s just kinda pretentious and annoying. Yes, you’re a cooler nerd than superhero fans, we get that you don’t like that Marvel and DC jointly own the word “superhero” — fine.

    This from the guy that continually uses the word “funnybook” to annoy people, I know.

  • Here’s the new short-lived cover redesign for the forthcoming quarterly Fantastic Four run by Millar and Hitch.

    Okay, that’s kinda dickish of me. But I don’t care what they say, about how much they’re working ahead, etc. etc. — I’ll believe this will come out on a monthly basis when I see it. My customers certainly don’t believe it…a lot of them read Millar and Hitch’s Ultimates, and they remember how long it took for that series to get cranked out.

    Don’t get me wrong…I like that redesign, the preview pages look great, and I think this comic will sell just fine. But if they’re going to attempt to keep a monthly schedule (less of an apparent concern for the Big Two in recent years), I expect fill-ins. Or six monthly issues, then a gap or fill-in, or something.

  • I’m getting a connect error at the moment (probably from all the people simultaneously trying to download MY exciting interview), but there’s already a new installment of the latest Bispectacult podcast. Take one Dafna, one Dave, and add a dash of Kid Chris, and there you go.

    Er, if the site’s back up by the time you read this.

Got about an hour to spare?

If not, then download and listen later…it’s Part One of the long-awaited Bispectucult podcast featuring yours truly, where I am given the third degree by Dafna and Kid Chris. We talk about comics, weblogging, and and other stuff you have to know. Someone’s fiddling with the microphone through part of it, but I’m reasonably certain it wasn’t me. WARNING: Patrick Swayze’s magnum opus Road House is briefly discussed.

Also, I may be responsible for the audio gold that opens the podcast.

Progressive Ruin Presents…The End of Civilization.

Yes, it’s that time of the month yet again, where through long hours of hard work and personal sacrifice (and by “sacrifice” I mean “I’m doing this instead of reading my newly acquired copy of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier“), I once again present…the End of Civilization: Special “Naked Girl PVC Figures from Japan-Free” Edition. If you have a copy of the December 2007 Diamond Previews, why not follow along? (Links to earlier installments may be found in the sidebar.)

p. 276 – Ghostbusters Winston Zeddemore Limted Edition Lithograph:

For some reason, I was just struck by the sheer randomness of this item. I mean, were you expecting to see this? I wasn’t.

p. 358 – Honey and Clover Volume 1 TP:

It seems to me that there’s some kind of…I don’t know, event horizon, or saturation point, or critical mass, or something, where the caricaturing of young ladies in manga crosses the line from “cutesy” to “life-threatening.” You know, like the eyes are too big and watery, a Keene painting X 1000, a tiny mouth, a GIANT head…all exaggerated body elements pushed to their ultimate extremes, forming a horrible black hole of cuteness, sucking in all light and energy and matter for light years around.

Honey and Clover doesn’t quite reach that point, but we should take its warning seriously.

p. 363 – Great Figures in History: Mother Teresa & Nelson Mandela GNs:

I’m not ready for the adventures of Superdeformed Pokemon Teresa. Though I am curious if Nelson ever finds all the Dragonballs.

p. 379 – The Shatner Show:

Sometimes there are things that happen that make you wonder about the world around you, and whether you really, truly understand what’s going on, what dwells within the minds of your fellow humans. One of those things is an art collection devoted to illustrations of that man among men, William Shatner.

p. 385 – The Golden Compass Movie Storybook:

“…And then the heroes killed God, and everyone lived happily ever after. The end.”

p. 402 – Rolling Stones Premium Trading Cards:

I know this is a new card set, and not just a warehouse find of Rolling Stones cards from the 1970s…but they certainly look like a ’70s artifact, don’t they? That’s probably a problem inherent in any Stones merchandise. Also, I wonder if there are chase cards in the set…you know, prop cards with pieces of Keith Richards, that sort of thing.

p. 409 – Superman “Real Heroes Never Die” Black T-shirt:

From the “Trying Too Hard” clothing collection, comes this fine piece of pandering….

p. 409 – Batman Laser Cut Logo Necklace:

Apparently “imported from Italy,” which is how they get away with charging you nearly 95 bones for it. For 95 bucks that thing had damn well actually summon Batman.

p. 417 – Tonner DC Stars Batman & The Joker Collector Dolls:

Okay, I can kind of handle “1990s Nondescript Sitcom Actor” Bruce Wayne, but I’m afraid that Liberace Joker is far, far too terrifying:

p. 424 – Star Trek Retro Cloth Scotty Figure:

What the hell is Scotty doing? “Och, Capt’n, I’ve got descriptive text crawlin’ up me pants! My disco moves canna stop ’em!”

p. 425 – Star Trek Wrath of Khan “Death of Spock” Spock Figure:

You know, if you coat your Spock figure with radiation burns, you’ve pretty much limited your play options. “Oh, no, Spock died…again.” “Oh, no, Spock has been terribly burned.” “Oh, no, Spock has been terribly burned…and he died.” Though some imaginative kids could work around it, I’m sure…not that many of these will end up in the hands of kids, of course.

p. 438 – Spider-Man Six Arm Mini-Bust:

At last, a commemorative statue of the storyline that’s notable for being the former Worst Spider-Man Story until “The Clone Saga” came along. (At least, people used to think Six-Arm Spidey was the worst, way back when…do people look more kindly upon it now, particuarly since it likely compares favorably to a lot of the nonsense published recently?)

p. 440 – Back to the Future Flux Capacitor Replica:

$275 seems like a lot for a box with some lights inside that happens to look like something you saw in a movie, once.

p. 444 – Lord of the Rings Animated Twilight Ringwraith Maquette:

So we’ve cycled through figures and statues of the characters as they appeared in the movies, now we have to make merchandise based on some nonexistent “animated” versions of the same films. “How to tell when a franchise line is reaching the end of its licensing cycle.”

p. 476 – Revoltech Danboard Action Figure:

Oh, c’mon, jointed plastic boxes…? You people just aren’t even trying.

p. 495 – Star Trek “D.J. Spock” Ringer T-Shirt:

It’s cute seeing companies still trying to make Star Trek “cool.” Not working, sorry.

Mike’s New Comics Day Lunchtime Update 3007.

1. So what’s up with the art in Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters #3? There seem to be a quite a few photocopied (or Photoshopped) faces and bodies used repeatedly throughout the issue, particularly with Uncle Sam late in the book. I know it’s a time-saving device and all, but it’s just obvious to the point of distraction this time around.

I’d make some scans, but our store scanner is dead slow and I don’t want this to be a Dinner Update.

EDIT: Dwayne’s got all the evidence you need.

2. All Star Batman and Robin #8 is a thing of beauty, and woe betide you if you think otherwise. I love you, All Star Batman and Robin.

3. I looked at the character descriptions on the package backs of the new Shazam! action figure set, and this is what they say about Hoppy the Marvel Bunny and Billy Batson:

“A quiet newsboy by profession, BILLY BATSON was chosen by the wizard SHAZAM! to take on the alter-ego of Captain and protect the world. He’s even more effective when similarly powered HOPPY THE MARVEL BUNNY is by his side.”

I love the fact that this is all the explanation for Hoppy that they give you. Okay, chances are most people buying this will be in their 40s or older and know who Hoppy is, but there’s a possibility someone somewhere is going to be totally baffled by a rabbit in a superhero costume.

This is all somehow Roy Thomas’ fault.

4. Eros Comix’s Blowjob has had 22 issues? Good gravy. Er, so to speak.

5. Employee Aaron: “This comic is very quality!”

Me: “This comic is full of quality!”

Employee Aaron: “This comic couldn’t be more quality!”

Me: “Quality? This comic is soaking in it!”

Employee Aaron: “This comic is oozing quality from every pore!”

Me: “This comic is suffering from quality leakage!”

Employee Aaron: “Er….”

Me: “Too far?”

Employee Aaron: “Quite.”

6. Well, Sensational Spider-Man #41 is out, and it looks like we were all right about what’s gonna happen to Peter, Mary, and Aunt May (and as I first alluded to way back when). ‘Course, there’s one more issue left in this story, which should come out sometime before Christmas ’08, so there could be a last minute twist — we’ll see.

But it’s a moot point, since, according to the last installment, the only comic you should buy was part two, so you’ll never read the rest of the story anyway.

Oh, and a quick glimpse through Death of the New Gods #3 would seem to indicate that my theory about what’s really going on is on the right track. I haven’t actually read the issue yet, but I’m going to interpret the info I gleaned from my quick scan as supporting my argument. It’s my weblog, so there.

DEEDS NOT WORDS.

So yesterday was not New Comics Day, as I’m sure most of you knew, or at least discovered when you popped in to your local Comick Shoppe Emporium and Painless Dentiste and discovered the mockery of empty shelves and the derisive laughter of store employees, pointing and laughing and drinking deep your tears. At least, that’s what happened at our store. Maybe things were different where you’re at.

Anyway, no new comics calls for drastic measures, so up went the “graphic novels 25% off – today only” signs, and our new comics-less Wednesday was indeed saved. Sold lots of books…not enough manga, alas, since we could stand some thinning of the herds there, but money is money and by golly, we’ll take it. Sold an expensive slipcased volume or two, got rid of some Batman books, gave a few customers that additional incentive to try out a series they’d been meaning to get around to…all in all, a good day at the shop.

Unfortunately, I also found out that, while we are getting our reorders of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: The Black Dossier in this week’s shipment, that’s gonna be it for the time being. DC’s now taking orders for a second printing, which will be released just in time to not be in time for Christmas…well, this year’s Christmas, anyway, as they’ll be out ’round ’bout Dec. 28th. Save your gift certificates for that, kids.

And I’m getting my copy, this time. Pal Dorian keeps mocking me with his copy.

Lessee…what else happened on New Comics-less Wednesday? I got asked if I knew how much the action figures were going to be for the next Hellboy movie (“Um, that’s not coming out ’til next year sometime.” “Yeah, but how much will the figures cost?” “Well, fifteen bucks or so, maybe? I don’t know.” “Okay, thanks!”), found out the reason I hadn’t seen one of my longtime customers lately is because he’s been acting on sitcoms and getting parts in feature films, found a copy of one of those Megaforce comic book ads for a customer (“DEEDS NOT WORDS,” man), and, for reasons too silly and convoluted to go into, I drew, on an old backing board with a felt tip pen, a stick figure Dracula. “Stickula,” if you will. I don’t have the original…the gal from the game store next door saw it and asked if she could have it, and since I’m a soft touch, I said, “five bucks and it’s yours.” But, here’s a detailed reconstruction of said image:


Those little squiggly lines at the sides are supposed to be his menacing cloak, you see. Have I mentioned lately that I’m 38 years old? Yes, I certainly am.

So, anyway, in other news:

  • Okay, let’s be clear on this. I’m not going to make a habit out of featuring auctions on the eBay that you folks are running and decide to e-mail to me. It better be something pretty darn cool, or unusual, or just plain goofy for me to give you some good ol’ fashioned Progressive Ruin plugging. I mean, if I’m going to plug a running auction, I’m going to plug our own. For example, right now we have Albedo #2 up on the eBay in an auction that ends tomorrow. As I write this, it’s up to $350. Holy crow. ‘Course, the comic is as rare as an on-time comic book written by a big name TV writer, so the price shouldn’t come as that much of a surprise, but still, yowza, you know?

    Er, back to the topic. Anyway, Reader Rick wrote in to tell me he had something on the eBay that I’d find of interest, since I seem to have an affinity for goofy eBay comic book stuff. And, goodness me, Reader Rick was right, for what he presented to me was nothing less than the X-Men Mutant Gear Survival Kit:


    You can look at the auction itself for more detailed pictures. This item isn’t that old, but I’d never seen it or heard of it ’til now. I was describing it to Employee Aaron and he says he thinks he had one.

    But check it out…it comes with two bars of Wolverine soap, Wolverine lip balm, Cyclops band-aids, and a little blue plastic carrying box with some X-Men decals affixed to its exterior. It’s probably be too much to hope that the shape of Wolverine was carved into the soap. The band-aids at least, from the look of the packaging, have X-Men images on them.

    The real puzzler is the Wolvie lip balm. “Wolverine doesn’t suffer from chapped lips…thanks to his special X-Men brand LIP BALM. Oh, and his healing factor.”

    I am kind of curious as to what the original retail price for this item was, because I’m betting it was way above the six or seven bucks any of this stuff would have cost, total, had you purchased them seperately and without a bunch of X-Men labels on them.

    But, still, kind of cool. And silly. And thanks to Reader Rick for being brave enough to send in this link to me.

    By the way, Reader Rick has the greatest eBay user name ever. Go check it out.

    And to all you sellers on the eBay out there, looking for some free publicity for your auction…before you click that “send this e-mail to Mike at ProgRuin” button that all computers now have installed at the factory, ask yourself one question. “Is my auction cooler/weirder/sillier than the Mutant Gear Survival Kit?” Because if it’s not, then friend, spare that e-mail.

  • Speaking of selling things…I just wanted to express my appreciation for you folks who bought goodies on Amazon through my little search box in the sidebar, there. The little bit of scratch I’m earning through that does help, and I thank you.