Wolverine Back Issue Talk, Part Four: Back Off, Bub!

§ December 22nd, 2024 § Filed under question time, wolverine § 7 Comments

Well, I said last week I was going to skip the Wolverine talk for a day or two, but just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in! I’ll do my best to keep it brief (uh oh, you know what that means) but I wanted to address a couple of things before Christmas hit.

First, there’s a comment or three that have been left on the Wolverine posts that I promise I will get to, once 1) I’m through with the main posts in the series, or 2) when I actually take a brief break from posting about specific Wolverine comics. So if you left a question recently, don’t worry, I haven’t forgotten you.

Second, I still have a couple of responses due for the most recent Question Time post. Haven’t forgotten those either! I’ll get to them soon.

Okay (phew) how ’bout some Wolverine?

Speaking of comments, Joe Gualtieri gives me a poke with

“No mention of #27? Its Jim Lee cover was used for the box art of the Wolverine NES game and seems to be at least as expensive as the other issues mentioned here.”

Well, Joe, there’s a perfectly good explanation for the omission, and that is…um, I forgot.

Here’s the cover under discussion, straight outta 1990:


That is indeed Mr. Jimothy Lee on art duties for that almost literally striking cover there. And all I can say is that the reason I forgot about this cover is that…I haven’t had one in my evil retailer hands in many a moon. Or if I did it sold so quickly that it left no impression on what’s left of my mind that I even had one around.

As such, I don’t have specific sales data I can give you all for this issue. I can make some assumptions, both from sources like the Hot Comics App and looking at sales on the eBays. It does seem to sell for a little more than your average issue of Wolverine from around this period, excluding the crazy-talk prices for the “professionally-grade” ones slabbed in their little plastic coffins.

So, what to rate this, on my scientifically-rigorous Three Claws Scale of Current and Possible Future Demand, 1 = “might sell under the right circumstances, eh” and 3 = “only hosers wouldn’t buy this” with 2 being somewhere between those two extremes.

And I think I’m going to rate Wolverine #27 at…a provisional Three Claws, until I get more more hands-on data with in-store sales. I mean, it’s a Jim Lee cover, it seems to sell online when priced right (I see a few sales at lower prices versus the higher priced copies that haven’t sold as of yet), and I don’t have any in stock. That seems to point to continual demand. I’ll pay more attention the next I have copies of this around, and maybe provide an update someday.

Next up, 1992’s release of the extra-sized issue #50, complete with the requisite gimmick cover:


The gimmick? See those “slashes” across the cover there? As if someone with a three-clawed hand left ragged cuts across this dossier? Those are actually die-cut gaps into the stiff cardstock cover, leaving three vertically oriented holes through which you can see the images printed on the page beneath.

As it turns out, those die-cuts were kind of a pain in the ass to rack at my previous place of employment, which at the time had wall-mounted wire racks. The comics were backed into the metal slots…not tightly, ideally, but it created kind of a pocket into which comics would slide in and out. Most comic covers were smooth, so that wasn’t a problem. But with literal ragged holes on the cover…pulling things out usually wasn’t a problem, but if someone removed a copy and decided against it, shoving the book back into the slot could mean catching the die-cuts and tearing the cover.

Our solution to this at the time (which we did with other die-cut covers, of which there thankfully weren’t too many) was to put comic bags on all our copies, thus creating that smooth surface necessary to prevent any catching. The other alternative was to have just one display copy out that customers could look at, and have the rest at the counter. Or we could get rid of the wire racks entirely and replace them with something sensible, but we wouldn’t do that for a while yet after this comic came out.

The comic was bit of a hot commodity for a while, and sold out of the back issue bins on a regular basis, mostly due to the gimmick cover and that it was one of the “anniversary” multiples-of-fifty special issues that always attract extra attention. It’s slowed down of late, at least for me, but I’ll give it a Two Claw rating as because it is a special issue, it will always be likely to have some measure of demand, even if it doesn’t fly out the door.

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Andrew says

“It seems to me that longevity depends on the cover and issue number, and very little on the story content.”

Sure seems that way, in a lot of cases. At first the Byrne issues were sought after because they were, well, Byrne issues. People wanted the content. But as tempus fugit-ed and people forgot about Byrne, all that was left to attract people to those comics were the covers. Also, don’t forget the Sabretooth issues…those continue to be bought because people want to see Wolverine fight that guy.

There were some periods in the history of the Wolverine series where demand was story driven, such as during those brief Peter David and Warren Ellis arcs. But otherwise, yeah, Andrew, in many cases you are correct in your assertion.

That said, I have a couple of examples coming in the Very Near Future of Wolverine seeing demand, if even only for a while, because of what’s between the covers and not on them. We’ll see when we get there!

Thanks for reading, everyone, and I hope everyone enjoys whatever holiday they’re enjoying! I’ll probably have a short message on Christmas (shorter than this post, certainly…remember when I said I’d be brief?) and be back on Friday for more shenanigans. See you then.

7 Responses to “Wolverine Back Issue Talk, Part Four: Back Off, Bub!”

  • Mike Loughlin says:

    I love the cover to Wolverine 50, but I can see it creating the hassle you describe. The only gimmick cover less wieldy is probably Eclipso 1 with the diamond.

    If you’re taking requests, I’m curious if the painted Mark Texiera covers on the first Sabretooth mini drive back issue sales. Ditto the BWS or Sam Kieth Marvel Comics Presents covers. I understand if you’re wrapping up this topic and moving on, I’m just fascinated by what drives back issue sales. Horrified when people talk about “newsstand variants” and 2nd printings selling for more than firsts, but fascinated.

  • Chris V says:

    The first few chapters of BWS’ “Weapon X” serial in MCP do seem to sell for some money, although if that is due to famous cover art or the contents of the story wound be harder to parse.
    Issue #79, featuring Logan wearing the VR headset on the cover, is going for slightly more than the usual MCP issue from around that time period, which could be based on people wanting to own that cover, or it could be due to the issue featuring something pivotal to the ongoing story.

    It seems as if some of the Sam Kieth covers from the Cyber story might be in higher demand based on the cover art, as some of the issues are going for higher online than the first appearance of Cyber.

    The Sabretooth mini-series seems to actually be valued below cover price, based on some online retailers.

  • Sean Mageean says:

    Speaking of Marvel Comics Presents, when it had flip book covers, which side of the book would usually be the display side at Ralph’s shop back in the day? Ghost Rider cover side? Wolverine cover side? Would it generally depend on who the hot cover artist was or who the hot featured character was?

  • Wayne Allen Sallee says:

    One of the younger workers didn’t know to bag and board all of the issues. That was solved quickly.

  • Andrew Davison says:

    Maybe the people looking for iconic story lines go for the TPBs. That’s certainly a cheaper option for older material.

  • Snark Shark says:

    “#27”

    Cool! Not my favorite Lee, but cool!

    “catching the die-cuts and tearing the cover”

    My copy had a tiny tear on it! That’s why I got it for lower than cover price.

    “But as tempus fugit-ed and people forgot about Byrne, all that was left to attract people to those comics were the covers”.

    And he had a short run on the title, whereas he was on FF for several years. FF is recommended!

    “Eclipso 1 with the diamond”.

    Yeah, those looked crappy, honestly. And sometimes the plastic “Diamond” falls off.

    “Marvel Comics Presents/Wolverine side”

    I think Wolverine was officially the front. He was in the entire MCP run, I think.

    “Maybe the people looking for iconic story lines go for the TPBs. That’s certainly a cheaper option for older material.”

    Makes TOTAL sense, especially for WEAPON X. The back up stories are NOT essential.

    Speaking of MCP/Wolvie, a story by Tim Truman was decent, as well. I can’t remember the issue numbers.

  • Snark Shark says:

    If there were ever a Wolverine & Sabertooth TV series, the theme song from Dukes of Hazard would work as thier theme song, also!

    “Just Good Old Boys/Never Meanin’ No Harm”.

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